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Offline allchopin

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Chromatic Scale - allchopin
on: June 02, 2005, 02:33:53 AM
Scale down using the 131321 etc. fingering.  ;)
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Re: Chromatic Scale - allchopin
Reply #1 on: June 02, 2005, 05:16:04 AM
My Lord! I thought I had heard it all!! I've heard Richter, I've heard Gould, Cziffra, Lipatti, Michelangeli, Lupu, I've seen Kuerti and Pogo, Lang and Li. I've met Hough and, uh, I've heard quite a lot about Kapell...

BUT, YOU GUESSED IT, I HAVE NEVER HEARD SUCH ARTISTIC MASTERY!! SUCH...TECHNICAL BRILLIANCE...SUCH CONTROL! SUCH DEPTH!

Yes sir, you have accomplished the unimaginable here. You have probed the abyss of humanity carrying nothing but a keychain flashlight with a faulty bulb, yet with it you have taken the effort to uncover even the most elusive mysteries. In meditating on this new recording, if one is brave and arrogant enough to allow himself to do so, a person cannot help but feel terrified at its enigmatic way of revealing, as without much effort at all, the answers to the universe's greatest questions, at least as ever conceived by mankind.

The pianoforum is not worthy of such unimaginable power!

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Re: Chromatic Scale - allchopin
Reply #2 on: June 02, 2005, 12:21:47 PM
My Lord! I thought I had heard it all!! I've heard Richter, I've heard Gould, Cziffra, Lipatti, Michelangeli, Lupu, I've seen Kuerti and Pogo, Lang and Li. I've met Hough and, uh, I've heard quite a lot about Kapell...

BUT, YOU GUESSED IT, I HAVE NEVER HEARD SUCH ARTISTIC MASTERY!! SUCH...TECHNICAL BRILLIANCE...SUCH CONTROL! SUCH DEPTH!

Yes sir, you have accomplished the unimaginable here. You have probed the abyss of humanity carrying nothing but a keychain flashlight with a faulty bulb, yet with it you have taken the effort to uncover even the most elusive mysteries. In meditating on this new recording, if one is brave and arrogant enough to allow himself to do so, a person cannot help but feel terrified at its enigmatic way of revealing, as without much effort at all, the answers to the universe's greatest questions, at least as ever conceived by mankind.

The pianoforum is not worthy of such unimaginable power!

ROFL!!!!

and allchopin, that's way faster than me but i've heard better, my old teacher made it sound like a glissando.
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Re: Chromatic Scale - allchopin
Reply #3 on: June 02, 2005, 06:38:44 PM
My Lord! I thought I had heard it all!! I've heard Richter, I've heard Gould, Cziffra, Lipatti, Michelangeli, Lupu, I've seen Kuerti and Pogo, Lang and Li. I've met Hough and, uh, I've heard quite a lot about Kapell...

BUT, YOU GUESSED IT, I HAVE NEVER HEARD SUCH ARTISTIC MASTERY!! SUCH...TECHNICAL BRILLIANCE...SUCH CONTROL! SUCH DEPTH!

Yes sir, you have accomplished the unimaginable here. You have probed the abyss of humanity carrying nothing but a keychain flashlight with a faulty bulb, yet with it you have taken the effort to uncover even the most elusive mysteries. In meditating on this new recording, if one is brave and arrogant enough to allow himself to do so, a person cannot help but feel terrified at its enigmatic way of revealing, as without much effort at all, the answers to the universe's greatest questions, at least as ever conceived by mankind.

The pianoforum is not worthy of such unimaginable power!
I'm glad you enjoyed my test recording.
I'll put up some pieces when I have time.
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Offline Goldberg

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Re: Chromatic Scale - allchopin
Reply #4 on: June 02, 2005, 06:54:05 PM
allchopin: are you the same member who won the concerto competition in Austin with the 1st Rachmaninoff concerto, and then went on to study with Dr. Roux at Rice? If so, how are things up there? Did you enjoy your first (or second...? Has it been that long??) year at the school? How's Dr. Roux? (and, no, I'm positive he wouldn't remember me, we only met twice, and briefly)

I sure would like to hear some real recordings, though. If you've come a long way since that gorgeous F-sharp minor concerto...well, you must be a phenomenal player.

Offline thierry13

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Re: Chromatic Scale - allchopin
Reply #5 on: June 02, 2005, 09:19:12 PM
It is same not fast...

Offline rob47

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Re: Chromatic Scale - allchopin
Reply #6 on: June 03, 2005, 05:02:35 AM
ROFL!!!!

and allchopin, that's way faster than me but i've heard better, my old teacher made it sound like a glissando.

uh i don't think allchopin was trying to make a competition out of it   :D
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Offline rafant

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Re: Chromatic Scale - allchopin
Reply #7 on: June 03, 2005, 04:50:53 PM
It seems as you have been object of a well elaborated, ironic and humorous comment in the first reply.

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Re: Chromatic Scale - allchopin
Reply #8 on: June 03, 2005, 06:40:16 PM
allchopin: are you the same member who won the concerto competition in Austin with the 1st Rachmaninoff concerto, and then went on to study with Dr. Roux at Rice? If so, how are things up there? Did you enjoy your first (or second...? Has it been that long??) year at the school? How's Dr. Roux? (and, no, I'm positive he wouldn't remember me, we only met twice, and briefly)

I sure would like to hear some real recordings, though. If you've come a long way since that gorgeous F-sharp minor concerto...well, you must be a phenomenal player.
Hmm, it appears you have the right person according to the second paragraph, but I don't believe I've ever played the Rach 1. ;)
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Re: Chromatic Scale - allchopin
Reply #9 on: June 04, 2005, 06:27:44 AM
You should definitely switch to the 4-3-2-1 3-2-1 3-2-1 fingering...(not you in particular, but everybody who doesn't use it)

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Re: Chromatic Scale - allchopin
Reply #10 on: June 04, 2005, 11:37:32 AM
hahahahahah a rec wit da true SDC spirit!!!! much respect!!

now all u need is sum speed

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Re: Chromatic Scale - allchopin
Reply #11 on: June 04, 2005, 12:22:48 PM
Very well!
Your name is allchopin and you play the chromatic scale like he did and as he taught his student. He said:
"Chromatic scale should be practised with the thumb, forefinger and middle finger."
I play with finger 1-2-3-4 and the reason is that it is the way I was taught.
Your speed and eveness is really good but not breathtaking and to make them better, concentrate on producing the scales more legato. Also practise them two hands, mirror, third away and half speed with one of the hands.
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Re: Chromatic Scale - allchopin
Reply #12 on: June 05, 2005, 01:28:21 PM
Your speed and eveness is really good

Pass me some of that vodka, and then I might redefine 'evenness'.

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Re: Chromatic Scale - allchopin
Reply #13 on: June 07, 2005, 10:27:27 PM
I use 1 3 1 3 1 2 3 3 1 3...
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Re: Chromatic Scale - allchopin
Reply #14 on: June 08, 2005, 03:40:29 AM
It's sad that a chromatic scale gets more attention than real pieces....

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Re: Chromatic Scale - allchopin
Reply #15 on: June 08, 2005, 04:23:39 AM
Pass me some of that vodka, and then I might redefine 'evenness'.


Ditto.

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Re: Chromatic Scale - allchopin
Reply #16 on: June 08, 2005, 10:16:04 AM
Pass me some of that vodka, and then I might redefine 'evenness'.
? ? ?
Some kind of irony which my swedish native language (=limited english) prevents me from understand properly. I guess on one of the following options:
1) There is no such word as evenness despite that the word unevenness exists (or it means something else which my dictionary does not translate).
2) You think the scale is played uneven.

What I do wonder about is how your post serves a pianistic meaning in this topic?
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Re: Chromatic Scale - allchopin
Reply #17 on: June 08, 2005, 11:27:13 AM
? ? ?
Some kind of irony which my swedish native language (=limited english) prevents me from understand properly. I guess on one of the following options:
1) There is no such word as evenness despite that the word unevenness exists (or it means something else which my dictionary does not translate).
2) You think the scale is played uneven.

What I do wonder about is how your post serves a pianistic meaning in this topic?

About as much pianistic meaning as posting a recording of a chromatic scale and commenting on the 'eveness' of it (when it's not).  ::)

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Re: Chromatic Scale - allchopin
Reply #18 on: June 09, 2005, 09:02:00 AM
So then it is option number two from my guess list. I really did not understand.

I have always been of the view that I should try to make encouraging posts or not post at all. We are all on different levels with different experiences and I think it is important to have this forum serve the purpose for the entire range of pianists. From beginners to professionals.

allchopin's scale is perhaps uneven looking from an advanved pianist's view but absolutely not comparing with a beginner or an intermediate view. So even or uneven comparing to what? Following this forum for some time (and many other forums for several years) tells me that about 90% of this forum's members (likely more) cannot reproduce his recording with a 1-2-3 fingering descending chromatic scale. Even though the descending right hand chromatic scale is of course (for the majority of pianists) the most easy out of the chromatic scales.

But well, I am taking this too far. We are all individuals with different views. I guess I just felt a need to express mine. I should  :-X.
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