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Ravel's Pavane for a Dead Princess
on: August 13, 2005, 01:15:17 AM
Another slow piece, again recorded on 7 foot Ibach grand. Sometimes I wonder if this rendition is way too romanticised...

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Re: Ravel's Pavane for a Dead Princess
Reply #1 on: August 13, 2005, 03:08:39 AM
Keep steady and don't make too big of a deal out of the rolled chords.

Nice delicate touch, work to keep that consistent the whole way through though.

Overall, very enjoyable performance.

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Re: Ravel's Pavane for a Dead Princess
Reply #2 on: August 13, 2005, 03:39:02 AM
Keep steady and don't make too big of a deal out of the rolled chords.

Nice delicate touch, work to keep that consistent the whole way through though.

Overall, very enjoyable performance.

Thanks for your comments. Will work on a less romanticized interpretation sometime in the future. It really does evolve with time.

I'm wondering though, which rolled chords you are referring to, because there really aren't that many in the piece. Also wondering about what specifically u mean by consistency on the touch. Do you mean I should aim for a smaller dynamic range, or not bring out the melody as much as I do now?

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Re: Ravel's Pavane for a Dead Princess
Reply #3 on: August 13, 2005, 05:59:04 AM
Rolled chords, specifically when the opening theme returns (beginning at measure 28).

Your dynamics were good, but every once in a while, a bass chord would get a bit too loud and out of place. Keep bringing out the melody.

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Re: Ravel's Pavane for a Dead Princess
Reply #4 on: August 13, 2005, 06:37:43 AM
Another slow piece, again recorded on 7 foot Ibach grand. Sometimes I wonder if this rendition is way too romanticised...

Really nice!  I don't think it's over romanticised at all.  It's nice to see it evolve from time to time.  This is one of my favorite pieces to play on the violin (with piano accompaniment).  I can hear the pedals on the recording... neat! 

I really enjoyed it.  I can tell that you really enjoyed playing it.  I hope to hear more!
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Re: Ravel's Pavane for a Dead Princess
Reply #5 on: August 14, 2005, 07:47:19 PM
Thanks for your kind comments. I did work quite carefully on the dynamics and pedalling (especially in the use of the una-corda pedal). I guess there is quite a bit of rubato in the interpretation, probably too much for traditionalists. In any case, here is an even more romanticised version recorded 10 days before the previous one, using a slightly slower tempo, and different dynamics.

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Re: Ravel's Pavane for a Dead Princess
Reply #6 on: August 15, 2005, 12:58:31 AM
Thanks for your kind comments. I did work quite carefully on the dynamics and pedalling (especially in the use of the una-corda pedal). I guess there is quite a bit of rubato in the interpretation, probably too much for traditionalists. In any case, here is an even more romanticised version recorded 10 days before the previous one, using a slightly slower tempo, and different dynamics.


Ok.. I had to look up una-corda pedal - the conversion to a real pianist for me is just starting.  I guess the effect is to give it a softer differerent tone.  The rubato is great.  I can tell you really love it.  I really like it.  It's all about rubato on my violin music - the great thing about piano is that you control the whole piece - instead of fighting with the piano accompanist.

I'm sure you play it differently every time.  I think Ravel would have liked this version.
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Re: Ravel's Pavane for a Dead Princess
Reply #7 on: August 16, 2005, 09:19:28 AM
I guess there are 2 ways to play this music. The first is in a stricter, steady, neo-classical style, to emphasize the "dance" element in the music, and not taking too slow a tempo. At the same time, maybe not so much una-corda, so as not to play up the colours too much. The other approach, which I have adopted, is just the exact opposite. Some might find it too sentimental, but its more "me" I suppose.

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Re: Ravel's Pavane for a Dead Princess
Reply #8 on: December 31, 2005, 07:01:49 AM
Would like to revive this thread to seek further comments. Personally, I thought this piece is one of my better efforts, but it might be too romanticized for some tastes. Further suggestions would be welcome :)
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