What's new with them? No offense intended, but I've heard a lot of these ideas before. I don't think anything is new.
I don't think I'll ever have things perfect so I'll always be looking for more advice on how to do things better and more efficiently. The ideas presented sound like good general principles for practicing that have always been around.
Maybe it's the forum? The ideas seem to be what I found in college. They were new and great to me then, but I thought that was standard college level thinking.
Are there any college professors on here? Isn't this just basic pedagogy for piano? What's new or different?
No offense meant to anyone here, esp Bernhard.
Thankfully, if it were not for video game music, I would've never come across internet forums such as this, and taught myself how to play the piano better. You know, I might have ended up in a rut after three months, never to play again, but I look back over the past 3 years and feel proud of what I have achieved.
I find have found that this is not common knowledge (as a package) in the univeristies and what not. It is different. m1469(sorry, I got really shy and erased most of my two posts here )
What's new is that on most occasions Bernhard and Chang can provide a well reasoned, scientific answer as to why an aspect of their 'method' will work. Their 'method' is based on a knowledge of anatomy, psychology etc. whereas in the past these aspects were less fully understood.
m1469, no need to get stirred up.But there are many more teachers who know their stuff as well and have valuable contributions, but don't make them on this forum. Instead, they teach in their own studios or at Universities, give masterclasses, perform, write professional books, lecture, etc.
But, by all means, please direct me to know exactly which books these may be (besides all the ones I can find reviewed in Chang's book already, of which, I do not know of any other book that offers a review of most of the other books out there, but maybe you do ) and which universities and studios I can go to? Which master classes and lectures I should participate in?Besides, if both Bernhard and Chang have come to the conclusion about their research and experiences that they have nothing unique to say, then why do you suppose they would waste their time and energy saying it? I am quite certain they could find ways to redirect that energy if it was not needed from them in the ways they provide it.
I have already agreed that Bernhard and CC are special in that they can offer a comprehensive package of their teachings, which probably not many can do or would do. "Wasting one's time" to teach old stuff to others is just as valuable if the students have never heard of it.
And actually, I took other things in your posts personally and reacted to that a little. Sorry, I got a little angry . That's just my stupid pride. Some of these things are indeed new to me, and it bothers me deeply, while it is a relief at the same time.Are you mad at me ? Please check the box : Yes [__] No [__]
What's new with them? No offense intended, but I've heard a lot of these ideas before. I don't think anything is new.I don't think I'll ever have things perfect so I'll always be looking for more advice on how to do things better and more efficiently. The ideas presented sound like good general principles for practicing that have always been around....Are there any college professors on here? Isn't this just basic pedagogy for piano? What's new or different?
I do believe that there are many teachers out there who can in fact answer such questions, but they don't participate in this forum. Likewise, really advanced students don't have questions that are discussed here.
...Does that mean nobody knows about all this? Does it mean it's novel? No. It means that people who do know all about this rarely participate in this forum. People who do participate don't know about it, because we are all amateurs (most of us anyway), so it's not to be expected that we know all this stuff. Professional pianists have other venues, but not this forum....Because dealing with all the intricacies of piano playing is a time-consuming, full-day job, most knowledgeable teachers and pianists don't have the energy or time in the evening to log onto the forum and participate in discussions.
I have had a total of 6 piano teachers in my life, 2 of which were college professors. Not one of them ever, ever talked about efficient methods of learning music. Perhaps they assumed this was a skill I should have already acquired in my youth.
...[My teachers] have obvisouly developed practice techniques because they are in demand as performers. And I have definitely acquired technical tools from them, particularly from my current teacher, but nothing anywhere close to Chang's description of parallel sets.If my teachers who have some of the "best" educations in the world have not been able or have not been willing to help me as such, who can?...What I do know for certain and what I will state clearly and confidently is, that should I have stayed on the road I was on, prior to what I learned/am learning here on this forum and in Chang's book, surely, I would not have come anywhere even respectively close to reaching my goals. That's disturbing, to say the least....